Fellow atheists.this is long, but I really need your support and advice. Please help me?
Topic: Fellow atheists.this is long, but I really need your support and advice. Please help me?
May 25, 2019 / By Cade Question:
I met this girl in bowling class. She knocked down all ten pins, but only gave her credit for nine of them. When she came back and sat down by me, I heard her say "that's bullsh*t!"
This past Saturday, I took her out on our first date. One of the things we did was go to an Irish pub where we watched a band play. At the pub, I asked her if she wanted a drink, and without thinking twice she said "I would like a Coors!" She told me she has smoked weed three times, the last being last summer....but apparently she doesn't really do drugs anymore I guess.
The date went fantastic, and she ended up inviting me inside her apartment where we talked and watched TV for an hour. I had my arm around her, with my hand resting on the upper part of her arm. She was giving me signs that she wanted to be kissed, but at the end of the night I gave her a peck on the cheek because I want to gain her trust...don't want her thinking I am after sex (because I'm not...I really like her). When I got home, she sent me a text telling me "thanks again, I had a fun night!" It appears that she really likes me.
However, I am an agnostic atheist. I am open to the idea that there might be a god, but there is no evidence so I choose not to believe in its existence. Well...inside her apartment, there was one artsy, colorful looking cross on her wall. She's told me before that she goes to church, so I know she is a Christian. She even told me that she sings in choir. However, her behavior projects to me that she isn't a hardcore Christian, and that she *might* be open to dating me, an agnostic atheist. How do I go about telling her? I feel like she kind of already has a feeling that I'm not religious. She has refrained from asking me if I go to church, which is good lol...but I know the religion topic will come up sooner or later. I really like her, and I think she is really liking me too. Does anyone have advice on how I should articulate to her that I am agnostic atheist? When she eventually will ask me what I believe, I was thinking of telling her "I believe every person wants to know the answer as to how we got here, and what the purpose of life is...and that some people are told and dictated to as they are little kids that what their parents believe is 100% right, and that they should believe in the same religion that their parents do, whether it be christianity, islam, judaism, etc...and if they even dare question the existence of god, then they are a bad person...so the majority of kids are implicitly taught to not develop a cognition that stems from rationality, but rather from fear and ostracization." Idk...lol...I am really at a loss here guys. Can you just help start me off with what and HOW I should say this stuff? I want to relay the message to her that her and I are a lot alike, and that I have morals, and am a good person...and that I won't ever try to proselytize her to "agnosic atheism."....and that I really like her and don't think that religion is a big deal. I'm 23 and she is 22 btw. Thank you for reading.
Best Answers: Fellow atheists.this is long, but I really need your support and advice. Please help me?
Aldwin | 1 day ago
Out with it man........" hey, I notice you have a nice cross on the wall, I myself am an agnostic."
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Originally Answered: How many atheists here believe that foods rich in antioxidants are good for your health?
"exhibit an obnoxious intellectual superiority because of holding what they are convinced as the truth."
Produce a god - ANY god - and you'll finish us.
"I was hoping to make them behave slightly more tolerantly to relgious[sic] people."
Being a minority we have had to be tolerant to survive ;)
"However, perhaps that same smugness that attracts them to atheism"
I am atheist ONLY because I have no belief in god/s.
Don't try to project your IGnorant nonsense onto me.
"makes them incapable of admitting any other errors"
If someone shows me I'm wrong I'll admit it.
I don't do baseless assertion.
I leave that to you people ;)
"I believe every person wants to know the answer as to how we got here, and what the purpose of life is...and that some people are told and dictated to as they are little kids that what their parents believe is 100% right, and that they should believe in the same religion that their parents do, whether it be christianity, islam, judaism, etc...and if they even dare question the existence of god, then they are a bad person...so the majority of kids are implicitly taught to not develop a cognition that stems from rationality, but rather from fear and ostracization."
Say that, but down play the whole "dictated" part. You don't want it to seem like you're attacking her personal beliefs. I believe every christian has doubts about some things so they do question their beliefs, they just don't admit and try to write it off as the "devil trying to bring them down". Anyhow, I think she sounds like she is open minded towards you.. just try and steer clear of the religion subject for a while and keep showing her who you are as a person, rather than your non-beliefs. You should always be honest about these things.. if it doesn't work out then there's nothing you could have done.
As a side note, I actually know a couple where the wife is christian and the husband is an atheist. They've been together for almost 30 years now. So anything is possible!
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She DOESn't sound VERY religious at all, since she's done drugs and would *let a guy up to her place on the FIRST date*! Don't worry. If she's only 22, maybe the cross on her wall was her mother's idea. She may BE a xian, but doesn't practice. Next time you're at her place, gesture to the cross and say, "Nice cross. Where do you go?" Now the ball's in HER court to explain to you whether she practices or not. If she does, every week, you can say, "OK. You understand that I don't do any of that, right?" Now the ball's back to her to decide what to do with you.
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If a battle broke out among Iran and Israel now it would not be approximately faith at the present time. It could be approximately economics and land. For faith to be thrown right into a speculative nuclear battle equation handiest veils the largest limitation that's that 2 international locations are not able to come to phrases on find out how to settle political problems with out killing blameless persons. Religious religion could also be the one factor that forestalls an useless battle if it is helping agencies of persons see eye to eye.
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From what I can tell, you two seem too really like each other and in the end that's all that matters. She seems like a normal Christian (not overly fundamentalist) so the difference in beliefs shouldn’t be a problem. I’m telling you from experience, my family is very diverse in their religious followings. My father is Jewish, my mother is a Methodist, and my sister is Buddhist. We’ve never had problems…. If a family as diverse as mine can coexist in harmony I think a couple shouldn’t have a problem
by the way, don't listen to "No Chance", he's an idiot...
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